October 18, 2005

What's Mine is Mine and What's Your's is Mine!

For the longest time, conservatives, liberals and lefties have all wanted the whole pie. Never considering dividing it up and ALL having a piece or two. Today, SactoDan, a local fellow blogger has an excellent post on compromising in politics.

There are a number of people calling themselves Republicans who are considerably liberal. They are commonly referred to a RINOs (Republican in name only), who are willing to look like liberals to win. Then there are hard core conservatives who's opinions are so ingrained, they won't even engage in meaningful dialog.

So who is the message intended for???

Somewhere in between are pragmatic conservatives who still operate from core beliefs, but are amenable to some compromise to achieve a share of power, and further their principles.

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There are the Republicans who are sick and tired of being labeled Whacko and Fascist. Personally, I am a decent loving and generous man. Political discourse or partnership with the Left has left me bloodied, insulted and cynical.

|| Posted by Nickie Goomba, October 19, 2005 11:42 AM ||

Although I am not a Republican, or a conservative, I am of the right, not the left. As such, from my vantage point, the desired political outcomes of the left are as much a problem for me because of the consequences (higher taxes, less freedom, lower economic growth, etc.) as because of the morality (intrusion on individual liberty). This is not, for me, a matter of compromise. Will I, willingly, work with someone who doesn't fully agree with me? Yes. On the other hand am I willing to adopt a centrist position to avoid the conflict and polarization we see today? No. How can I when I consider the left and centrist positions to be consequentially and morally wrong?

|| Posted by Eric, October 19, 2005 06:57 PM ||

I prefer Mises take on this un-needed attempt to define groups.

"The usual terminology of political language is stupid. What is “left” and what is “right”? Why should Hitler be “right” and Stalin, his temporary friend, be “left”? Who is “reactionary” and who is “progressive”? Reaction against an unwise policy is not to be condemned. And progress towards chaos is not to be commended. Nothing should find acceptance just because it is new, radical, and fashionable. “Orthodoxy” is not an evil if the doctrine on which the “orthodox” stand is sound. Who is anti-labor, those who want to lower labor to the Russian level, or those who want for labor the capitalistic standard of the United States? Who is “nationalist,” those who want to bring their nation under the heel of the Nazis, or those who want to preserve its independence?"

|| Posted by tkc, October 21, 2005 12:43 PM ||

Left and right are, definitely, poor concepts to express political spectrums. I prefer my method, which is to describe, on a matrix, where you stand with regard to economics (government vs. free markets) and individuals (authoritarian vs. anarchy). Hayek's discussion of three major political spectrums (socialism, conservativism, liberalism) is enlightening as well. That said, the idea's of those we typically label as "left", or "progressive", or "socialist", or "liberal" are, in my opinion, not acceptable from a perspective of being moral or ethical. Which means that, for me at least, centrism is not an answer. :-) Ethical government is here to maximize individual liberty, first and foremost.

|| Posted by Eric, October 22, 2005 11:35 AM ||
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